November 22nd, 2016 IRC Meeting

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Hearing for the Cambridge Surveillance Ordinance


Mayfirst Elections


Chelsea Manning's Birthday

Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do for it?



DIGITAL SECURITY 101 training at the Somerville Cryptoparty on 11/30

Campaign Workshops

Starting Local Chapters


  • Mailing?
  • Party?

CCTV Camera Map

Together Boston Meshnet

Upcoming Events

  1. 11/30, 6-9pm, DIGITAL SECURITY 101 (Somerville Cryptoparty) @ Sprout, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
  2. 12/10, noon, James will appear on The Show With BS, by Beyond the Horizon Radio Network
  3. 12/10, 1-3pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington
  4. 12/17, Chelsea Manning's Birthday


  • jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
  • srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
  • moses (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI)
  • Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI)
  • igel (william fleurant, arlington ma)


  • davidd
  • papegaai
  • Velveeta_Chef


Steve summarizes Cambridge City Council meeting, and handling of ACLU's surveillance policy proposal.

We discuss votes for the Mayfirst leadership committee.

Chelsea Manning's birthday is 12/17. There's a petition to commute her sentence to time served.


21:08 < jokeefe> agenda -,_2016_IRC_Meeting
21:08 < jokeefe> ids
21:08 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:08 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:08 < jokeefe> thanks for everyone’s attendence
21:08 < moses> Moses, West Tisbury
21:08 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI
21:09 < jokeefe> anything to add to the agenda?
21:10 < moses> nay
21:10 < srevilak> I can provide a review of Cambridge City Council meeting
21:10 < srevilak> if that would be of interest
21:11 < jokeefe> it would
21:11 < jokeefe> why don’t we start with that then
21:11 < srevilak> Okay, reviews ...
21:11 < srevilak> This was my first cambridge city council meeting.
        I arrived at 18:40, I think that was shortly after the public comment
        portion of the meeting started
21:12 < srevilak> A number of people spoke in favor of the ACLU
        Surveillance policy bill
21:12 < srevilak> One fellow did a very nice job of explaining NSA
        capabilities, and basically saying "cambridge should not be a part
        of this"
21:13 < srevilak> There were also items, re: sanctuary city and immigrant
        voting for local offices
21:13 < srevilak> Many commenters spoke about >= 2 of these issues
21:14 < srevilak> The council voted to send the surveillance policy to
        their ordinance committee for transcription
21:14 < srevilak> I *think* that means, "to draft up as ordinanace"
21:14 < srevilak> I presume that city council will get to review final
        draft, but I'm not sure
21:14 < srevilak> Spoke with Alex and Kade afterwards.
21:14 < srevilak> I'm interested in submitting a warrant article of this
        sort for arlington
21:14 < srevilak> <end of summary>
21:15 < jokeefe> thanks. yes, it would be good to get it in Arlington
        as well
21:15 < jokeefe> Endorsements - Mayfirst Elections
21:16 < jokeefe> srevilak - would you speak on it?
21:16 < srevilak> Sure
21:16 < srevilak> We are members of mayfirst, and they provide our mail
        and web hosting
21:17 < srevilak> They're not an ISP so much as an activist group,
        which provides tech to other activist groups
21:17 < srevilak> Organization has a 12-member leadership committee who
        makes a lot of the strategic decisions for the organization
21:17 < srevilak> As members, we're entitled to vote for leadership
        committee members
21:18 < srevilak> THere are six nominations, and five positions available
21:18 < srevilak>
21:18 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de
        votación (at
21:18 < srevilak> I'd like to see us vote
21:18 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think you'll have to submit the ballot,
21:18 < srevilak> I was hoping to talk about who we might want to support
21:19 < srevilak> <end of intro>
21:19 < jokeefe> I can post whatever we decide, though happy to forward
        any url on to you, srevilak
21:20 < jokeefe> any recommendations, srevilak?
21:20 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma
21:20 < igel> ahoy :)
21:20 < Kendra> Is it a group vote?
21:20 < srevilak> Kendra: yes, we have to vote as an organization
21:21  * srevilak is also an individual member, who gets to vote in
        that capacity
21:21 < jokeefe> ahoy igel
21:22 < jokeefe> good to see Micky Metts as a nominee
21:22 < srevilak> yes
21:23 < jokeefe> discussion?
21:23 < jokeefe> or is everyone still reading the bios?
21:24 < srevilak> I have thoughts, but would like to let others speak
21:26 < moses> Ashley or Micky
21:27 < Kendra> I know a few people.  I think Alfredo should let s
        oMoyetomher assume leadership for this round, considering his other role.
        I'd vote for the other five, it seems like a small pool.
21:28 < jokeefe> we can choose both, moses
21:28 < Kendra> that should read he should let others be on the leadership
        committee due to his other prominent role at mfpl
21:28 < Kendra> imo
21:29 < moses> lovely!
21:29 < jokeefe> ahoy Castaway
21:29 < Castaway> Ahoy!
21:30 < jokeefe> what is Alfredo’s other role at mfpl?
21:30 < Castaway> I don't know?
21:31 < srevilak> jokeefe: Alfredo is one of MF/PL's founders.
21:31 < Kendra> it's complicated, but he is a co-founder and has also
        been a paid employee, I don't know if he  is currently.  But there is
        non-profit drama
21:31 < jokeefe> was directing my question at Kendra, Castaway
21:31 < srevilak> Regardless of LC position, he's likely to get a voice
        in the decision making process
21:31 < Kendra> around how power is distributed over there
21:31 < igel> Castaway: we're viewing
21:31 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de
        votación (at
21:32 < jokeefe> are any employees among the nominees. Kendra?
21:33 < Castaway> Thanks
21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: AFAIK, MF/PL has three employees.  None of
        them are running for LC in this election
21:34 < Kendra> I can't say for sure, I kind of stopped paying attention.
21:34 < igel> i know Micky does a bunch between fsf, boston linux
        usergroup and tons gnu/libre .. but Alfredo mission statement is
        well.. acclimated
21:36 < jokeefe> any other discussion?
21:37 < Kendra> Honestly, it will be a landslide for Alfredo due to his
        history with the organization.  Micky has been more involved in the past
        few years and is very invested in worker owned tech coops
21:37 < igel> also: socialism :)
21:38 < Kendra> I don't know the others
21:38 < srevilak> Another thing to consider: MF/PL is co-headquartered
        in NYC and Mexico City.
21:39 < srevilak> IMHO, votes should have a mix of both regions
21:39 < Castaway> What kind of tech coops?
21:39 < Castaway> There’s a new nonprofit/PAC/501(c)4 called Rights
        and Democracy in Vermont and New Hampshire, how could this organization
        connect with MF/PL?
21:39 < Kendra> web dev coops, but also things like equal exchange
21:40 < jokeefe>
21:40 < papegaai> Title: May First/People Link (at
21:40 < Kendra> worker owned cooperatives in general, but she is part
        of agaric drupal dev coop
21:41 < Castaway> Cool. Thanks. More importantly, is there a national
        Pirate Party to help organize Pirate Parties in states that lack them?
21:41 < Castaway> Like Vermont?
21:42 < Kendra> we can add that to the agenda if you likr
21:42 < Castaway> That would be great.
21:43 < jokeefe> yes Castaway
21:43 < Castaway> Vermont needs a Pirate Party, and Rights and Democracy
        might be able to connect with the New Hampshire Pirates. Are they active?
21:44 < jokeefe> email and we can put you in touch
        with the Maine and NH pirates
21:44 < jokeefe> thanks for joining us Castaway
21:44 < Castaway> OK, thanks
21:45 < Castaway> Thank you!
21:45 < jokeefe> Any other discussion?  srevilak, I believe you were
        holding off for others?
21:46 < srevilak> I will second Kendra's opinion.  Alfredo is one of
        the founding members, and will have a voice in the org regardless of
        whether he's on the LC
21:46 < srevilak> I would vote for the other five
21:47 < jokeefe> Seems like a reasonable view to me
21:47 < jokeefe> so we have a proposal on the table to vote for all
        except Alfredo.
21:48 < jokeefe> all in favor?
21:48 < Kendra> aye
21:49 < srevilak> aye
21:49 < jokeefe> aye
21:50 < jokeefe> any other?
21:50 < jokeefe> ayes, that is?
21:50 < jokeefe> any opposed?
21:51 < igel> nay
21:53 < jokeefe> thanks. Motion passes 3 to 1 then
21:53 < jokeefe> Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do
        for it?
21:54 < Castaway> Impeach Donald J. Trump?
21:54 < srevilak> Petition to commute chelsea manning's sentence to
        time served
21:54 < srevilak>
21:54 < papegaai> Title: Commute Chelsea Mannings Sentence to
        Time Served | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government (at
21:55 < Castaway> Is there a deadline for pardons?
21:55 < jokeefe> well, that has to be done by 12/14, so can also urge
        people to sign it, for what is it worth
21:55 < Castaway> yes
21:56 < srevilak> Castaway: deadline is probably 1/19, before new
        administration moves in
21:56 < jokeefe> don’t think Trump will parson Manning, so last day
        of Obama’s term would be it for the next four years
21:56 < jokeefe> pardon Manning, that is
21:56 < Castaway> You mean 8 years, unless he's impeached
21:57 < jokeefe> I remain optimistic
21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win
        re-election built
21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win
        re-election bid
21:57 < Castaway> Has anyone seen reports of voter suppression among
        people of color?
21:57 < jokeefe> he builds the best re-elections
21:58 < Castaway> Ha, ha
21:58 < srevilak> and makes China pay for them
21:58 < jokeefe> what with the voter id laws, wouldn’t really be
21:59 < srevilak> According to
21:59 < papegaai> Title: 2016 Election Lawsuit Tracker: The New Election
        Laws and the Suits Challenging Them - (at
21:59 < srevilak> there was a bit of litigation around voting laws
21:59 < jokeefe> thanks
21:59 < Castaway> No, there was this insane program among Republican
        secretaries of state called Crosscheck, and it purged Uge numbers of
        voters from the voter rolls in swing states
22:00 < jokeefe> we are almost at time, any other suggestions for
        manning’s birthday?
22:00 < jokeefe> support letter writing campaign, donations to legal fund?
22:00 < igel> yeah... in the VP-elect state
22:00 < Kendra> sounds good
22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes.  Or at least blog post
22:00 < srevilak> I'll volunteer to draft one
22:00 < jokeefe> thanks
22:01 < srevilak> Also, do we want to do a post about noDAPL?
22:01 < jokeefe> yes
22:01 < igel> ^
22:01 < jokeefe> is my thought
22:02 < jokeefe> anyone willing to draft a post on noDAPL?
22:02 < srevilak> Am planning to go to Plymouth for day of morning.
        I'm sure I'll come away with something from that
22:02 < Castaway> I hope you do write a post on noDAPL. I'll check the
        US Pirate Party website for info about organizing.
22:02 < jokeefe> thanks.  just put it up on an etherpad and we can
        make suggestions
22:03 < Kendra> motion to ajourn
22:03 < jokeefe> 2nd
22:03 < Castaway> OK
22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor?
22:03 < Kendra> aye
22:03 < srevilak> aye
22:03 < jokeefe> Castaway -
22:03 < papegaai> Title: We need you! Here are some tools! | United
        States Pirate Party (at
22:03 < Kendra> nite
22:03 < jokeefe> good night
22:03 < srevilak> will post transcript
22:03 < jokeefe> thank you