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== Summary ==
== Summary ==


Noe and Joe were recently interviewed on the Young Jurks.  Joe has been doing other interviews.
Noe and Joe were recently interviewed on the Young Jurks.  Mozilla interviewd Noe and Joe today; article will run hopefully on Sunday.  Joe has been doing other interviews.


Flyering for Noe's campaign.  Starting 1pm on Saturday, and 10am on Sunday.
Flyering for Noe's campaign.  Starting 1pm on Saturday, and 10am on Sunday.
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21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda at
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_30th,_2014_IRC_Meeting
21:03 < jokeefe> ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:05 < jokeefe> ahoy, kate_m
21:05 < srevilak> hi, kate_m
21:05 < kate_m> evening :)
21:05 < srevilak> So, Update on candidate status, campaign strategies ?
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda at
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_30th,_2014_IRC_Meeting
21:06 < jokeefe> aye
21:06 < jokeefe> Joe had his debate on Friday
21:06 < jokeefe> Joe & Noe were on the young Jurks Saturday
21:07 < jokeefe> Noe's crew have been out leafletting
21:08 < jokeefe> Have distributed thousands so far on people's doors,
        laudromats and cafes.  Any public place we can.
21:09 < jokeefe> More leaflets to get out this weekend.  Looking for
        more volunteers
21:09 < srevilak> I'm tied up on Sat, but free much of Sunday
21:09 < jokeefe> Great!
21:09 < jokeefe> Thank you.
21:09 < jokeefe> Our campaign party starts 8:30pm on Tuesday.
21:10 < srevilak> Will be there after Linux class
21:10 < jokeefe> wonderful
21:10 < kate_m> I know I have stuff Saturday evening, not sure about
        the rest of the weekend
21:11 < jokeefe> Ok.  We start 1pm on Saturday and 10am on Sunday.
        Will likely stop no later than sundown
21:12 < jokeefe> Working to get a blog post/email out Friday morning.
21:12 < noe> ahoy!
21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy noe
21:13 < noe> Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA
21:13 < jokeefe> just doing a campaign update
21:13 < noe> sweet
21:14 < kate_m> jokeefe: where is meetup for leafleting?
21:15 < jokeefe> We are gathering at 56A Cedar St., Somerville
21:16 < jokeefe> now, anything you want to add?
21:17 < jokeefe> noe that is
21:18 < noe> Erm, Mozilla interview today went well.  They interviewed
        both me and Joe and will be running something hopefully on Sunday.
21:18 < igel> lo
21:18 < noe> They asked general questions about votenoelani as well as
        how it is to run as a person under the age of 50
21:18 < noe> ahoy!
21:18 < jokeefe> hi, igel
21:18 < srevilak> hi igel
21:19 < igel> yaar, hey i saw some of the tweets from canvasing in
        #somerville
21:19 < igel> how else it go?
21:20 < noe> its been pretty good!
21:20 < jokeefe> going well so far
21:20 < noe> people seem curious and amused
21:20 < jokeefe> some have been very supportive
21:20 < noe> I think leafletting during the day is better than during
        the night, so we should strive to do daylight things more often next time.
21:21 < igel> i believe it
21:21 < jokeefe> aye
21:21 < noe> I want to thank everyone who has been contributing, tweeting,
        making suggestions, etc.
21:21 < noe> We couldn't do this without you all.
21:21 < noe> What's the next item?
21:22 < jokeefe> Mask March
21:22 < noe> I will be there with petitions for PassMassAmendment,
        don't know the times I can come, though I'd like to come when the crowd
        is thickest.
21:22 < jokeefe> anyone know what the schedule is?
21:22 < noe> Do we have a plan?
21:22 < jokeefe> besides starting at 8am
21:23 < noe> (no start at 8am, no)
21:23 < kate_m> I don't know if we're even making an appearance there
21:23 < kate_m> goddamn midweek nonsense
21:23 < kate_m> remember remember the 5th of november
21:23 < kate_m> when we stand around the statehouse and get nothing done
21:23 < noe> can't we remember the 9th?
21:24 < noe> *sigh*
21:24 < igel> HEH
21:25 < noe> I would like to go with petitions, but should we set up
        a reasonable time frame for Pirates to hang out (2 hours, something
        fun, etc)
21:25 < noe> ?
21:26 < jokeefe> agree
21:26 < jokeefe> noon seems a good time.
21:26 < srevilak> noe: what's happening on the 9th?
21:26 < igel> on teh hill?
21:27 < jokeefe> so, meet at noon, unless we hear it is over by then?
21:28 < igel> yea
21:28 < noe> srevilak:  I just wish we could have the Mask March on
        a SUnday.
21:28 < kate_m> ^^^
21:28 < noe> srevilak:  I think all the walking might be tiring me out.
21:28 < srevilak> noe: yes, me too
21:29 < srevilak> although, last saturday's march was pretty good
21:30 < jokeefe> noe & kate_m, noon?
21:30 < noe> will be there
21:31 < noe> with petitions on!
21:31 < jokeefe> great!
21:32 < jokeefe> Next up - Blog post on Net Neutrality / Comcast
21:32 < jokeefe> Anyone able to write it?
21:33 < noe> I think for net neutrality, a lot of srevilak's talk could
        be edited in.
21:33 < jokeefe> srevilak?
21:34 < srevilak> Can work on it this weekend
21:34 < jokeefe> thank you
21:34 < noe> (I'm tempted to just cut and paste from the pdf, myself)
21:34 < noe> (I mean, its a series of coherent arguments)
21:35 < noe>
        https://www.srevilak.net/wiki/images/3/37/Net-neutrality-copyright-20141029.pdf
21:35 < noe> As for Comcast, are we talking about the mergers?
21:35 < srevilak> noe: thx
21:35 < igel> could we add alternatives? eg, build your own net
21:35 < srevilak>
        http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/why-comcasts-javascript-ad-injections-threaten-security-net-neutrality/
21:35 < jokeefe> aye to all
21:36 < srevilak> Basically, comcast is doing man in the middle attacks
21:36 < srevilak> In order to inject ads
21:36 < igel> yeah, and verizon has been doing it too.
21:37 < jokeefe>
        http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-phones-advertisers-2014-10
21:37 < srevilak> Comcast is different
21:37 < srevilak> verizon adds http UID headers
21:37 < igel> well, tagging your http requests, effectively bypassing
        'dont track me'
21:37 < srevilak> Comcast modifes DOM
21:37 < igel> yeah the DOM injection is like, every other web
        page.. really invasive
21:38 < noe> ("unwanted injections" seems kind of . . . assault-y or
        molest-y to me)
21:38 < noe> (and yet, its appropriate)
21:38 < jokeefe> agreed
21:38 < jokeefe> Last formal item - Citizen Four showing
21:38 < noe> Saturday night?
21:39 < srevilak> I'm game
21:39 < jokeefe> Was going to suggest, Thursday, but Saturday works
21:40 < noe> Oh, wait, I just checked the Doodle, Alex chose Wednesday
        November 5 night
21:40 < jokeefe> yes
21:40 < srevilak> But we can go saturday :)
21:40 < noe> True!  :)
21:40 < jokeefe> I told him we might do our own, and would distribute
        their literature
21:43 < igel> yea?
21:43 < jokeefe> So, Saturday it is, then.
21:43 < noe> Whoo!
21:44 < noe> Should we buy tickets beforehand?
21:44 < jokeefe> yes
21:44 < igel> welp, i think im workn on mesh stuff this weekend
21:44 < jokeefe> cool
21:45 < jokeefe> anything else you all want to bring up?
21:46 < noe> have a great halloween everyone!  (and get some sleep if
        you're meeting up with us in Somerville on Saturday at 1pm)
21:47 < igel> aah
21:47 < igel> you mentioned cryptoparties once or twice over the list
21:47 < igel> are there any on the calendar ?
21:47 < jokeefe> yes, would be good to have one in Nov. / Dec.
21:48 < noe> i think jamie may have been working on us running a
        cryptoparty trainer training
21:48 < igel> ok
21:48 < igel> aah
21:49 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:49 < noe> we should probably try to set a date at next week's meeting
        for a cryptoparty or a trainer training
21:49 < igel> sounds hood :D
21:49 < noe> i'm all set
21:49 < jokeefe> agreed, noe
21:50 < jokeefe> Think it would be good to have a social in Nov/Dec.
21:51 < jokeefe> will add it to the agenda for next week
21:51 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn?
21:51 < noe> so moved
21:51 < noe> 2nd?
21:51 < srevilak> second motion to adjour
21:51 < srevilak> second motion to adjourn
21:51 < jokeefe> all in favor?
21:51 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:51 < noe> aye
21:51 < jokeefe> thanks!
21:51 < jokeefe> aye
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Latest revision as of 21:53, 30 October 2014

Review

Decisions/Events Status

  1. Update on candidate status, campaign strategies
    1. Blog post
    2. Email
  2. Mask March
    1. Blog post
  3. Blog post on Net Neutrality / Comcast
  4. Citizen Four showing

Participants

  • jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
  • srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
  • davidd
  • kate_m
  • noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA)
  • igel

Observers

  • Pharyngeal
  • wildthing2
  • zby

Events Summary

  1. Oct. 31, UK-US Cybersecurity Symposium, 8am-6pm, One Broadway, 7th Floor, Cambridge
  2. Nov. 4, Election day, 7am-8pm
  3. Nov. 5, Million Mask March
  4. Nov. 6, Citizen Four tabling?, Kendall Sq. Cinema
  5. Nov. 6, Radical Reference Collective: Privacy Workshop for Library Professionals, 2-5pm, Medway Public Library
  6. Nov. 18, Boston Police Cameras Action Team meeting, 6-8pm, location TBD
  7. Dec. 6, Radical Reference Collective: Privacy Workshop for Library Professionals, 2-5pm, Simmons College
  8. May 6, 2015, International Day against DRM.

Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge

Summary

Noe and Joe were recently interviewed on the Young Jurks. Mozilla interviewd Noe and Joe today; article will run hopefully on Sunday. Joe has been doing other interviews.

Flyering for Noe's campaign. Starting 1pm on Saturday, and 10am on Sunday.

Minutes

 
21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda at
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_30th,_2014_IRC_Meeting
21:03 < jokeefe> ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:05 < jokeefe> ahoy, kate_m
21:05 < srevilak> hi, kate_m
21:05 < kate_m> evening :)
21:05 < srevilak> So, Update on candidate status, campaign strategies ?
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda at
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_30th,_2014_IRC_Meeting
21:06 < jokeefe> aye
21:06 < jokeefe> Joe had his debate on Friday
21:06 < jokeefe> Joe & Noe were on the young Jurks Saturday
21:07 < jokeefe> Noe's crew have been out leafletting
21:08 < jokeefe> Have distributed thousands so far on people's doors,
        laudromats and cafes.  Any public place we can.
21:09 < jokeefe> More leaflets to get out this weekend.  Looking for
        more volunteers
21:09 < srevilak> I'm tied up on Sat, but free much of Sunday
21:09 < jokeefe> Great!
21:09 < jokeefe> Thank you.
21:09 < jokeefe> Our campaign party starts 8:30pm on Tuesday.
21:10 < srevilak> Will be there after Linux class
21:10 < jokeefe> wonderful
21:10 < kate_m> I know I have stuff Saturday evening, not sure about
        the rest of the weekend
21:11 < jokeefe> Ok.  We start 1pm on Saturday and 10am on Sunday.
        Will likely stop no later than sundown
21:12 < jokeefe> Working to get a blog post/email out Friday morning.
21:12 < noe> ahoy!
21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy noe
21:13 < noe> Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA
21:13 < jokeefe> just doing a campaign update
21:13 < noe> sweet
21:14 < kate_m> jokeefe: where is meetup for leafleting?
21:15 < jokeefe> We are gathering at 56A Cedar St., Somerville
21:16 < jokeefe> now, anything you want to add?
21:17 < jokeefe> noe that is
21:18 < noe> Erm, Mozilla interview today went well.  They interviewed
        both me and Joe and will be running something hopefully on Sunday.
21:18 < igel> lo
21:18 < noe> They asked general questions about votenoelani as well as
        how it is to run as a person under the age of 50
21:18 < noe> ahoy!
21:18 < jokeefe> hi, igel
21:18 < srevilak> hi igel
21:19 < igel> yaar, hey i saw some of the tweets from canvasing in
        #somerville
21:19 < igel> how else it go?
21:20 < noe> its been pretty good!
21:20 < jokeefe> going well so far
21:20 < noe> people seem curious and amused
21:20 < jokeefe> some have been very supportive
21:20 < noe> I think leafletting during the day is better than during
        the night, so we should strive to do daylight things more often next time.
21:21 < igel> i believe it
21:21 < jokeefe> aye
21:21 < noe> I want to thank everyone who has been contributing, tweeting,
        making suggestions, etc.
21:21 < noe> We couldn't do this without you all.
21:21 < noe> What's the next item?
21:22 < jokeefe> Mask March
21:22 < noe> I will be there with petitions for PassMassAmendment,
        don't know the times I can come, though I'd like to come when the crowd
        is thickest.
21:22 < jokeefe> anyone know what the schedule is?
21:22 < noe> Do we have a plan?
21:22 < jokeefe> besides starting at 8am
21:23 < noe> (no start at 8am, no)
21:23 < kate_m> I don't know if we're even making an appearance there
21:23 < kate_m> goddamn midweek nonsense
21:23 < kate_m> remember remember the 5th of november
21:23 < kate_m> when we stand around the statehouse and get nothing done
21:23 < noe> can't we remember the 9th?
21:24 < noe> *sigh*
21:24 < igel> HEH
21:25 < noe> I would like to go with petitions, but should we set up
        a reasonable time frame for Pirates to hang out (2 hours, something
        fun, etc)
21:25 < noe> ?
21:26 < jokeefe> agree
21:26 < jokeefe> noon seems a good time.
21:26 < srevilak> noe: what's happening on the 9th?
21:26 < igel> on teh hill?
21:27 < jokeefe> so, meet at noon, unless we hear it is over by then?
21:28 < igel> yea
21:28 < noe> srevilak:  I just wish we could have the Mask March on
        a SUnday.
21:28 < kate_m> ^^^
21:28 < noe> srevilak:  I think all the walking might be tiring me out.
21:28 < srevilak> noe: yes, me too
21:29 < srevilak> although, last saturday's march was pretty good
21:30 < jokeefe> noe & kate_m, noon?
21:30 < noe> will be there
21:31 < noe> with petitions on!
21:31 < jokeefe> great!
21:32 < jokeefe> Next up - Blog post on Net Neutrality / Comcast
21:32 < jokeefe> Anyone able to write it?
21:33 < noe> I think for net neutrality, a lot of srevilak's talk could
        be edited in.
21:33 < jokeefe> srevilak?
21:34 < srevilak> Can work on it this weekend
21:34 < jokeefe> thank you
21:34 < noe> (I'm tempted to just cut and paste from the pdf, myself)
21:34 < noe> (I mean, its a series of coherent arguments)
21:35 < noe>
        https://www.srevilak.net/wiki/images/3/37/Net-neutrality-copyright-20141029.pdf
21:35 < noe> As for Comcast, are we talking about the mergers?
21:35 < srevilak> noe: thx
21:35 < igel> could we add alternatives? eg, build your own net
21:35 < srevilak>
        http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/why-comcasts-javascript-ad-injections-threaten-security-net-neutrality/
21:35 < jokeefe> aye to all
21:36 < srevilak> Basically, comcast is doing man in the middle attacks
21:36 < srevilak> In order to inject ads
21:36 < igel> yeah, and verizon has been doing it too.
21:37 < jokeefe>
        http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-phones-advertisers-2014-10
21:37 < srevilak> Comcast is different
21:37 < srevilak> verizon adds http UID headers
21:37 < igel> well, tagging your http requests, effectively bypassing
        'dont track me'
21:37 < srevilak> Comcast modifes DOM
21:37 < igel> yeah the DOM injection is like, every other web
        page.. really invasive
21:38 < noe> ("unwanted injections" seems kind of . . . assault-y or
        molest-y to me)
21:38 < noe> (and yet, its appropriate)
21:38 < jokeefe> agreed
21:38 < jokeefe> Last formal item - Citizen Four showing
21:38 < noe> Saturday night?
21:39 < srevilak> I'm game
21:39 < jokeefe> Was going to suggest, Thursday, but Saturday works
21:40 < noe> Oh, wait, I just checked the Doodle, Alex chose Wednesday
        November 5 night
21:40 < jokeefe> yes
21:40 < srevilak> But we can go saturday :)
21:40 < noe> True!  :)
21:40 < jokeefe> I told him we might do our own, and would distribute
        their literature
21:43 < igel> yea?
21:43 < jokeefe> So, Saturday it is, then.
21:43 < noe> Whoo!
21:44 < noe> Should we buy tickets beforehand?
21:44 < jokeefe> yes
21:44 < igel> welp, i think im workn on mesh stuff this weekend
21:44 < jokeefe> cool
21:45 < jokeefe> anything else you all want to bring up?
21:46 < noe> have a great halloween everyone!  (and get some sleep if
        you're meeting up with us in Somerville on Saturday at 1pm)
21:47 < igel> aah
21:47 < igel> you mentioned cryptoparties once or twice over the list
21:47 < igel> are there any on the calendar ?
21:47 < jokeefe> yes, would be good to have one in Nov. / Dec.
21:48 < noe> i think jamie may have been working on us running a
        cryptoparty trainer training
21:48 < igel> ok
21:48 < igel> aah
21:49 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:49 < noe> we should probably try to set a date at next week's meeting
        for a cryptoparty or a trainer training
21:49 < igel> sounds hood :D
21:49 < noe> i'm all set
21:49 < jokeefe> agreed, noe
21:50 < jokeefe> Think it would be good to have a social in Nov/Dec.
21:51 < jokeefe> will add it to the agenda for next week
21:51 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn?
21:51 < noe> so moved
21:51 < noe> 2nd?
21:51 < srevilak> second motion to adjour
21:51 < srevilak> second motion to adjourn
21:51 < jokeefe> all in favor?
21:51 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:51 < noe> aye
21:51 < jokeefe> thanks!
21:51 < jokeefe> aye
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