February 7th, 2017 IRC Meeting

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Notes on last weekend events are up at 2017 Event Notes.



Campaign Workshops

Starting Local Chapters

Fundraising & Conference

Message board application

Local Surveillance Ordinances


MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign

Projects On Hold For the Moment

Both of these could be topics for future hackathons.

CCTV Camera Map

Together Boston Meshnet

Upcoming Events

  1. 2/18, 2-4pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington
  2. 2/22, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty

See: 2017 calendar


  • igel
  • jokeefe
  • Castaway
  • ovenbirdmash
  • puer


  • davidd
  • itspara
  • sankey
  • srevilak




[9:06pm] jokeefe: agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_7th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
[9:06pm] papegaai: Title: February 7th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org)
[9:06pm] jokeefe: ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville
[9:07pm] igel: will fleurant, arlington
[9:08pm] Castaway: Andrew Sullivan, New Haven, Vermont (pleased to be able to observe)
[9:09pm] ovenbirdmash: Chris Foran, Boston
[9:09pm] puer joined the chat room.
[9:10pm] jokeefe: ahoy puer
[9:10pm] puer: ahoy there
[9:10pm] jokeefe: were doing ids
[9:11pm] Castaway: Quick note: I was finally contacted by the guy who maintains the Facebook page for the Vermont Pirate Party; he's ambivalent about electoral politics, but he and others have organized presentations on online security for activists
[9:11pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:11pm] Castaway: Yeah
[9:11pm] jokeefe: Review
[9:11pm] jokeefe: anything to add, BTW?
[9:12pm] puer: no updates on my end
[9:12pm] jokeefe: Posted my notes from the events last weekend at https://masspirates.org/wiki/2017_Event_Notes
[9:12pm] papegaai: Title: 2017 Event Notes - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org)
[9:12pm] puer: havent had time yet to examine the reddit storage needs
[9:13pm] jokeefe: thanks for the update
[9:14pm] jokeefe: Projects - Campaign Workshops - next one is 2/25, 11:00am-2:30pm, Holyoke Public Library Community Room, 250 Chestnut St, Holyoke
[9:14pm] jokeefe: JoeT is working on a set of how to videos based off of our November presentations
[9:15pm] Castaway: Cool
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Conference date is set for 4/29. looking for location and speakers. have to setup registration forms
[9:18pm] jokeefe: and page
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Message board application
[9:19pm] jokeefe: self-hosted reddit needs more memory than we are likely to get with our hosting service.
[9:20pm] jokeefe: https://discuss.masspirates.org/ is there, but we haven’t set anything up yet
[9:20pm] papegaai: Title: Future home of discuss.masspirates.org (at discuss.masspirates.org)
[9:20pm] ovenbirdmash: how much memory needed, how much we got?
[9:20pm] jokeefe: 4GB
[9:21pm] jokeefe: not sure how much we got
[9:21pm] jokeefe: https://masspirates.slack.com/ is also setup
[9:21pm] papegaai: Title: Slack (at masspirates.slack.com)
[9:21pm] igel: riot
[9:21pm] igel: https://riot.im
[9:21pm] papegaai: Title: Riot. Break through. (at riot.im)
[9:22pm] jokeefe: yes, USPP has one at https://riot.im/app/#/room/#USPP:matrix.org
[9:22pm] papegaai: Title: Riot (at riot.im)
[9:22pm] jokeefe: but haven’t pushed it yet
[9:23pm] Castaway: Is there a Mass Pirates room on riot.im?
[9:23pm] jokeefe: not at this time. we are working on our solution
[9:25pm] jokeefe: we have a tech meeting on 2/18, 2-4pm, Arlington
[9:25pm] puer: is the idea to eventually use riot for these weekly meetings?
[9:25pm] jokeefe: don’t know
[9:25pm] igel: riot has a bridge ability, to use matrix protocol and irc protocol.. so.. users can use either irc client or riot chat client
[9:25pm] jokeefe: riot is a possibilty, but still considering
[9:25pm] jokeefe: good to know, thanks igel
[9:27pm] jokeefe: Local Surveillance Ordinances
[9:27pm] jokeefe: srevilak made progress in Arlington.
[9:28pm] igel: ya?
[9:28pm] jokeefe: selectboard setting up a study group
[9:29pm] igel: i read the details of the camera rollout.. i thought this was _New_ England
[9:29pm] jokeefe: still working out the particulars
[9:29pm] puer: what's the background of the surveillance ordinance project?
[9:30pm] Castaway: The Arlington Selectboard is setting up a study group for what? Local Surveillance Ordinances?
[9:30pm] jokeefe: yes coming up with a local surveillance ordinance
[9:30pm] jokeefe: aim is to put constrants on town/city surveillance
[9:30pm] Castaway: great
[9:31pm] jokeefe: public meetings, comment period, data retention, i.e. oversight
[9:32pm] Castaway: I think oversight and admissibility are the two most important themes.
[9:32pm] jokeefe: agreed
[9:33pm] Castaway: data retention is important, too
[9:33pm] jokeefe: BTW: we have a surveillance camera mapping project cctv.masspirates.org
[9:34pm] Castaway: it sounds like a great project
[9:36pm] puer: at an earlier meeting an idea was brought up to post images of the cameras
[9:36pm] puer: (as part of a marketing campaign)
[9:36pm] puer: i thought that would also be a cool addition to the website
[9:37pm] puer: so for any given camera on the map, it would be possible to see a photo of the camera
[9:37pm] jokeefe: yeah, puer, got pictures - https://www.flickr.com/photos/9468132@N05/sets/72157654494704494
[9:37pm] papegaai: Title: Surveillance | Flickr (at www.flickr.com)
[9:38pm] Castaway: a picture is worth a thousand words
[9:38pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:39pm] jokeefe: MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign - bunch of clinics coming up
[9:39pm] jokeefe: that is all I have.
[9:41pm] jokeefe: igel, any update on mesh networks?
[9:41pm] igel: yizzir,
[9:41pm] igel: people all over the country organizing
[9:43pm] puer: location appears to have been scrubbed out of the flickr surveillance album photos
[9:43pm] igel: locally, theres a half dozen folks eager to build/teach
[9:44pm] puer: (not present in EXIF data. would be willing to sit down and help manually enter locations at next tech meetup)
[9:44pm] jokeefe: yeah, puer, some were taken with an traditional camera
[9:45pm] igel: it seems like the thread on bostonmeshnet.reddit helped us connect and take discussion to irc
[9:46pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:47pm] igel: finally, was offered to a bench/lab for iterative development.. and for sure.. week/monthly meetups
[9:49pm] igel: we'll need guidance!
[9:49pm] jokeefe: were?
[9:49pm] igel: inman sq.?
[9:52pm] igel: perhaps.. may be..
[9:53pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:53pm] igel: may be we should have a cryptoparty there?
[9:53pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:53pm] igel: sort of get an idea as to.. to be as democratic as to how things go abut..
[9:55pm] jokeefe: lets talk off line
[9:55pm] igel: ok.. i'll find out more.
[9:55pm] jokeefe: and pick a date
[9:55pm] jokeefe: any other topics?
[9:55pm] Castaway:  I raised the possibility of starting a Pirate Party Meetup in Vermont, and it would be a forum for a cryptoparty.
[9:56pm] puer: meetup group on meetup.com? interesting
[9:57pm] jokeefe: sounds like a plan Castaway
[9:57pm] Castaway: Meetup.com
[9:57pm] Castaway: I hope so
[9:57pm] jokeefe: monthly can work
[9:57pm] jokeefe: don’t forget to put it up at cryptoparty.in as well
[9:58pm] Castaway: OK, I'll look for that
[9:58pm] jokeefe: shall we adjourn?
[9:59pm] puer: sounds good
[9:59pm] Castaway: aye
[9:59pm] jokeefe: aye