September 21st, 2015 IRC Meeting
- Decide position on Video Gaming Tax Break
- Bill Hearings 9/22
- Video Gaming Tax Break
- Freedom Rally Planning
- PirateCon 2015 Videos
- Evan Greer talk (Bluestreak)
- MAAPL form (srevilak, jokeefe, noe, ...)
- Newsletter (Kendra, paper_waves, ?)
- Design & Feedback
- Distribution Planning (besides emailing a pdf)
- Gather list of people to mail it to (?)
- Gather a list of places to distribute it (?)
- Decide on the print run (?)
- Updated media list (noe)
- Oct. - Free Software & Innovation
- Nov. - 2016 Elections
- Dec. - ?
- Blog posts
- Local/regional contacts (jokeefe) - Regional page up. Working on local pages.
- TPP update (jokeefe)
- CISA update (jokeefe)
- Tech - see for priorities
- Bitcoin + Credit card gateway in CiviCRM (srevilak, js0000, Kendra)
- Improve UI navigation of wiki & expose more wiki bits on blog (Noe, jokeefe)
- Allow distributed organizing on CiviCRM (and pointers to get started) (Kendra, srevilak, Chris, jokeefe)
- js0000 and jokeefe will work on building a tool to manage twitter:
design(jokeefe) - posted at Twitter API design
- coding (js0000 & jokeefe)
- Forum (or needed now that lists are publicized?)
- Policies update (jokeefe)
- Check on the state of them
- Write up doc on using git & commenting on & voting on changes.
- Sep. 22, 1pm, Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242), Gardner Auditorium at the Massachusetts State House
- Sep. 26th & 27th, Freedom Rally - Sign up form - Planning - have asked for volunteers in email as well
- Sep. 30, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Oct. 3, 7-11pm, FSF 30th Anniversary Celebration, CIC Boston, 50 Milk St, Boston
- Oct. 13 (probably), Cory Doctorow Event - Working with other groups
- Oct. 28, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Nov. event?
- Nov. 25, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Dec. event?
- Dec. 30, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
- Bestpiggy (olivia píñeyro, Boston)
- noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville)
- aquaticonions (Eli Haber, Lexington)
Video gaming tax break. Essentially like hollywood tax credit, but for corporations that develop video games. It piggy-backs on MA's film industry tax credit. The way law is written is "add video game" where the text "movie" appears. MA's film industry credit cost the state ~ $108k per job. About 1/3 of the money spent on video production in MA goes to recipients in the state; the rest goes to out-of-state recipients.
Vote to oppose bill: 5 votes to oppose tax break, no votes against, 1 abstention. Motion to oppose passes.
Freedom Rally. Discussed goals. Recruiting is a main goal. Lucia and Jason will do setup on Friday night. Jamie, Noe, Steve will coordinate bringing flyers, signature forms, flags.
21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_21st,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:00 < noe> ahoy! 21:00 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:00 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:01 < Bestpiggy> olivia píñeyro, Boston 21:01 < noe> Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:02 < aquaticonions> Eli Haber, Lexington 21:02 < jokeefe> any additions to the agenda? 21:03 < srevilak> would like to talk about focal points/goals for freedom rally, when we get to it 21:03 < jokeefe> sure thing 21:03 < jokeefe> Decisions - Decide position on Video Gaming Tax Break 21:05 < jokeefe> Discussion? 21:06 < srevilak> Tax break is corp tax only, correct? (i.e., not for independent, unincorporated game developers) 21:07 < jokeefe> That is my understanding 21:07 < Bluestreak> So like the Hollywood tax break 21:07 < jokeefe> Exactly 21:07 < jokeefe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H2487 21:08 < jokeefe> “Section 2: Section 6 of Chapter 62 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2008 Official Edition, is further amended in section (l)(1) by adding at line 429 after “motion picture” the following term: “, or video games,” . “ 21:09 < jokeefe> “Video Game Production Company”, a company including its subsidiaries engaged in the business of producing video games. The term “video game production company” shall not mean or include any company which is more than 25 per cent owned, affiliated, or controlled, by any company or person which is in default on a loan made by the Commonwealth or a loan guaranteed by the Commonwealth 21:09 < jokeefe> So there is a local focus 21:10 < srevilak> Sounds like "Video Game company" means "No you, Curt Shilling" :) 21:10 < srevilak> Sounds like "Video Game company" means "Not you, Curt Shilling" :) 21:10 < jokeefe> Well not really a local focus. Look at the language for motion picture companies: 21:10 < jokeefe> “Motion picture production company”, a company including its subsidiaries engaged in the business of producing motion pictures, videos, television series, or commercials intended for a theatrical release or for television viewing. The term “motion picture production company” shall not mean or include any company which is more than 25 per cent owned, affiliated, or controlled, by any company or person which 21:10 < jokeefe> in default on a loan made by the commonwealth or a loan guaranteed by the commonwealth. 21:11 < jokeefe> Hollywood gets around the 25% max outside ownership, so can video gaming companies 21:13 < noe> so, really, never default on a massachusetts backed loan. you will never get a tax break! 21:14 < jokeefe> well, off load it to a shell corp 21:15 < jokeefe> So the cost is about $108,000 per job 21:16 < srevilak> I venture to guess that $108k is more than most state employees make 21:16 < jokeefe> Massachusetts occupations took home an average annual salary of $56,410 21:17 < jokeefe> in 2014 - https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/08/29/the-most-and-least-profitable-professions-massachusetts/A90tpuSvjz3fFFr7a5okMN/story.html 21:17 < jokeefe> Doubt starting game designers make near that 21:17 < jokeefe> 108k, that is 21:18 < srevilak> Is there an estimate for what the state will lose in credits over the next N years? 21:18 < jokeefe> Software app developers get $103,250 21:19 < noe> (we're rich!) 21:20 < jokeefe> “The state handed out $11.3 million in tax credits to the producers of movies, TV shows, and commercials in 2013, down from nearly $73 million in 2012 and nearly $38 million in 2011.” 21:20 < jokeefe> http://commonwealthmagazine.org/economy/013-look-whos-getting-tax-credits/ 21:20 < Bluestreak> No. 21:20 < Bluestreak> I vote don’t support. 21:20 < jokeefe> "WGBH received more than $2 million in tax credits, or nearly 19 percent of last year’s total.” 21:21 < jokeefe> Any other discussion? 21:21 < srevilak> I suspect infrastructure repairs would be a better long-term investment, and would create more jobs 21:22 < Bluestreak> The film credit? 21:22 < Bluestreak> Agree with srevilak 21:23 < jokeefe> “In 2012, the Revenue Department estimated film productions spent $315.8 million in Massachusetts and qualified for $78.9 million in film tax credits. Of the total spending, only $103.7 million, or 33 percent, went to Massachusetts residents and businesses.” 21:23 < jokeefe> http://commonwealthmagazine.org/economy/running-the-math-on-black-mass/ 21:24 < jokeefe> Shall we go to a vote? 21:26 < noe> I love WGBH, but if you look at their financial reports, 2 million is something like 0.1% of their unrestricted assets. They really don't need it. 21:26 < jokeefe> Nice point 21:27 < srevilak> I'm ready for a vote 21:27 < noe> Hey, I'm a supporter. I don't think these tax breaks are making or breaking where people film. 21:28 < jokeefe> ok, moving to a vote. All in favor of opposing this Bill, say aye: 21:28 < noe> What makes or breaks it is how responsive city or county government is to filmmaker's requests/ interest 21:28 < Bluestreak> aye 21:28 < noe> aye 21:28 < Bestpiggy> aye 21:28 < srevilak> nay 21:29 < srevilak> sorry nay on bill, aye to oppose 21:29 < jokeefe> ok 21:29 < jokeefe> had me wondering there 21:29 < jokeefe> aye 21:30 < jokeefe> any opposed to the motion? 21:31 < jokeefe> any abstaining? 21:31 < aquaticonions> I'm Abstaining 21:32 < jokeefe> five in support of opposing the bill, 1 adstention 21:32 < jokeefe> motion passes 21:32 < jokeefe> I’ll write the statement and send it out for review. 21:33 < Bluestreak> Thanks! 21:33 < jokeefe> Just a reminder that the Bill Hearings are tomorrow. This tax credit bill and the GMO labeling bill 21:33 < jokeefe> Tax credit hearing is 10am-1pm 21:34 < jokeefe> GMO labeling bill is 1pm, with the rally starting at 11:30am 21:34 < jokeefe> If you can make either, please do. 21:34 < Bluestreak> hearing 21:34 < jokeefe> Freedom Rally - https://piratenpad.de/p/MAPPFreedomRally2015 21:35 < jokeefe> Pre-Rally Tasks 21:36 < jokeefe> Focal points/goals 21:36 < Bluestreak> We need a flyer for the Cory event to pass out at FR 21:36 < Bluestreak> I suppose that is my task 21:36 < srevilak> I was hoping for a quick discussion about what we want to achieve at freedom rally (aka, why are we there) 21:37 < Bluestreak> Brand recognition 21:37 < Bluestreak> 1 21:37 < srevilak> Presumed that one goal was to obtain signatures for PMA 21:37 < Bluestreak> networking 21:37 < srevilak> Other goal is getting candidates & volunteers to do work 21:37 < noe> are we primarily there for outreach? 21:37 < Bluestreak> I thought so 21:38 < jokeefe> And sigs for cannabis legalization, though there will be many there 21:38 < Bluestreak> Mike Cann has a link to a petition 21:38 < srevilak> Bluestreak: brand recognition is nice, but I'd really like to find hands to do stuff 21:38 < Bluestreak> I will share it with the list 21:38 < Bluestreak> Such as? 21:38 < jokeefe> So what tangible items do we want to achieve 21:39 < jokeefe> Signatures, people for the mailing list, volunteers are good goals, IMHO 21:39 < srevilak> My tangibles: candidates, people to phone bank, people to serve on city/town committees 21:39 < srevilak> people to do video production, design flyers, 21:39 < srevilak> write blog posts 21:40 < srevilak> I'd like more activists 21:40 < noe> I will get PMA petitions printed to bring on Saturday. 21:40 < srevilak> noe: thx 21:40 < noe> More activists is awesome! That is a good goal. 21:40 < srevilak> more lovely people to IRC with on Monday nights :) 21:41 < Bluestreak> Recruiting, sure. 21:41 < srevilak> anyway, those are my goals. Was wondering how others felt 21:41 < jokeefe> I think activists come from volunteers, but it never hurts to ask 21:41 < Bluestreak> That’s always part of the plan. 21:42 < Bluestreak> Who is going to be 1st shift sat?> 21:43 < Bluestreak> Because they need to get the banners and flags from Jamie 21:43 < Bluestreak> And hang them, unless… someone can meet the set up crew Friday night 21:43 < noe> Me. I probably can't carry all the banners and flags, but I can carry a bunch. 21:43 < srevilak> I can be there sat from 11:00 - whenever 21:43 < Bluestreak> If all goes to plan, Jason and David will be setting up Friday night 21:44 < jokeefe> I have the banners and flags. 21:44 < Bluestreak> OK great! 21:44 < noe> I can be there only sat from 11:00 am-2pm 21:44 < jokeefe> How about I bring the banners to noe so she can bring them in in the morning. 21:44 < Bluestreak> I have binder clips to use to hang stuff 21:44 < noe> (family thing came up) 21:44 < Bluestreak> NO! 21:44 < Bluestreak> sads 21:44 < jokeefe> and will give the flags to srevilak 21:44 < noe> jokeefe: can do. i can hand stuff off to others before i head out. 21:45 < srevilak> jokeefe: can pick up flags on Thu or Fri night. Will coordinate via email 21:45 < Bluestreak> kk 21:45 < jokeefe> sounds good 21:45 < Bluestreak> Flyers 21:45 < Bluestreak> Who will get the flyers there? 21:46 < Bluestreak> Also Steve? 21:46 < noe> I can take flyers and banners. 21:46 < Bluestreak> I’m confused 21:46 < jokeefe> ok, may keep some to bring on Sunday. 21:46 < Bluestreak> I thought you couldnt go 21:47 < srevilak> sounds like noe, jokeefe and I should coordinate 21:47 < jokeefe> yes 21:47 < noe> Is jokeefe getting them printed? I figured we'd do a handoff. 21:47 < jokeefe> Bluestreak - noe: I can be there only sat from 11:00 am-2pm 21:47 < jokeefe> I will get them printed 21:47 < Bluestreak> Hmmm missed that ty 21:47 < noe> they look good, btw. keeping it b&w, short and sweet. 21:48 < jokeefe> We have gaps in our coverage. If people can sign up for time slots, that would be great. 21:48 < jokeefe> See - https://piratenpad.de/p/MAPPFreedomRally2015 21:49 < jokeefe> less expensive too, noe 21:49 < noe> did people signup via the blog? 21:50 < Bluestreak> Yes ppl please sign up! 21:50 < jokeefe> not many 21:51 < noe> did we add the blog signups to the PiratePad? because if we did, that is sad. 21:51 < jokeefe> yes 21:51 < srevilak> There were three signups: noe, jokeefe, and myself 21:52 < Bluestreak> When we started doing FR is was only 6 hrs long 21:52 < Bluestreak> it was 21:52 < noe> now its much longer. wow! 21:52 < Bluestreak> The plan in this family is that Jason and David will be there all the time. 21:53 < jokeefe> That would be much appreciated. 21:53 < Bluestreak> I will do without them for the good of the Pirates! 21:53 < jokeefe> Prefer not to be there Sunday all alone 21:53 < jokeefe> thank you, Bluestreak 21:53 < Bluestreak> My pleasure. 21:53 < jokeefe> There are lots of people on the FB post, but turning them out … 21:53 < Bluestreak> Wish I could be there all weekend. 21:55 < noe> its crazy busy right now, schools back in session and all the things are happening 21:55 < jokeefe> yes 21:55 < jokeefe> I will get an email blast out 21:55 < Bluestreak> We still don’t have a location to tell people 21:55 < jokeefe> any word, srevilak? 21:56 < Bluestreak> Tom hasn’t gotten it to me yet, and as you know, he wants to move us this year 21:56 < srevilak> not yet. Expecting to hear from Lee tomorrow 21:56 < jokeefe> ok, thanks 21:57 < jokeefe> We are at time. Please reach out to people and encourage them to help at the tent. 21:57 < Bluestreak> You know it 21:57 < Bluestreak> motion to adjourn 21:58 * srevilak just asked twitter for tablers 21:58 < Bluestreak> ty! 21:58 < noe> second 21:58 < noe> all in favor of adjourning? 21:58 < jokeefe> aye 21:59 < jokeefe> srevilak, you got notes? 21:59 < noe> aye 22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: got em 22:00 < jokeefe> thanks 22:01 < jokeefe> any opposed to adjourning? 22:01 < Bluestreak> aye 22:01 < Bluestreak> to adjourning 22:01 < Bluestreak> oops 22:01 < Bluestreak> nighty night! 22:01 < jokeefe> motion passes. 22:01 < jokeefe> good night all. thanks!