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# Feb. 4, Cryptoparty @ [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ Boston Desktop Linux Users Group] | # Feb. 4, Cryptoparty @ [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ Boston Desktop Linux Users Group] | ||
# Feb. 8 (week of), Pirate Show, SCATV (Noe) | # Feb. 8 (week of), Pirate Show, SCATV (Noe) | ||
# Feb. 14, WMass Cryptoparty (lisbon), Massachusetts Green High Performance Computing Center, 100 Bigelow Street, Holyoke, MA (http://mghpcc.com/), Snow date is Feb 21st, dates tentative. duration 4 hours. Need to supply our own projector? | # Feb. 14, WMass Cryptoparty (lisbon), Massachusetts Green High Performance Computing Center, 100 Bigelow Street, Holyoke, MA (http://mghpcc.com/), Snow date is Feb 21st, dates tentative. duration 4 hours. Need to supply our own projector? Time is 11:00a - 3:00p | ||
# Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade | # Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade | ||
# Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester | # Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester | ||
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Reviewed events: Arisia cryptoparty, four mile march (notes at [[2015 Event Notes]]). | Reviewed events: Arisia cryptoparty, four mile march (notes at [[2015 Event Notes]]). | ||
PirateCon 2015. Democracy center is booked up for weekends in April and May. | PirateCon 2015. Democracy center is booked up for weekends in April and May. We choose April 25th as the conference day. Community church is tentative location -- we'll put down a deposit now. | ||
From [https://masspirates.org/blog/2014/12/06/preliminary-results-from-our-piratecon-2015-survey/ poll], the top topics are | |||
# Net neutrality & Open Government | |||
# pirate strategy | |||
# building third party coalitions & filing FOIA/public records requests | |||
# income inequality | |||
# running campaigns | |||
Steve will contact Muckrock, re: participating in FOIA campaign. | |||
Jamie will contact Boston Open Government group. | |||
Net neutrality. Perhaps contact BNN, freepress, SCATV | |||
Feb 14th cryptoparty is 11:00 - 3:00pm. Steve would like to do presentation on how browsers leak information (aka corporate surveillance). Perhaps Andrew Lewman on Tor. Would be nice to record the session. Micky offered to do a session on OTR. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_22nd,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:00 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak - Arlington, MA | |||
21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy lisbon | |||
21:01 < lisbon> ahoy | |||
21:01 < plantzz> Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville | |||
21:01 < lisbon> Christopher Maria - Ludlow, MA | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> anyone want to add anything? | |||
21:03 < srevilak> nothing to add to the agenda | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Review | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Jan. 17, Arisia Crypto-panel - Went well - 35 people | |||
attended. Was able to cover GnuPG and Tor in about an hour. At least | |||
as an overview. | |||
21:05 < srevilak> Did stallman stop in? | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> There is interest in doing it again next year. Think we | |||
should focus on getting people to use software on tablets and smart | |||
phones since that is mostly what was available. | |||
21:06 < lisbon> stallman was there?? | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> yes he did. he dropped off some fliers and stickers, | |||
made a speech, then left. came back later to pick things up | |||
21:07 < lisbon> interesting. What is the best way to do it on a mobile | |||
device? | |||
21:07 < lisbon> I have had bed experienced in the past with tor on | |||
android tablets | |||
21:07 < srevilak> lisbon: https://guardianproject.info/ (for android) | |||
21:08 < lisbon> excellent, maybe this will work for me | |||
21:09 < lisbon> *bad experiences | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> Well, we have months to try them out, though we certainly | |||
need to cover it more | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> Jan. 19, 4 Mile March - was very well attended. | |||
very well run | |||
21:12 < srevilak> jokeefe: were you there with banner? anyone else? | |||
21:12 < igel> lo' | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> Noe and I were there. We brought the banners. | |||
21:12 < srevilak> ahoy, igel | |||
21:12 < igel> William Fleurant, Arlington MA | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy igel | |||
21:12 < lisbon> was there as many people there as their Facebook page | |||
says there was? | |||
21:13 < srevilak> news claims ~ 1000 participated | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> seemed like at least a 1000 people were there. | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> more than the 100s the media said | |||
21:14 < lisbon> great (except for the inaccurate numbers from the media) | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> so it went well | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> Decisions - kind of short | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 | |||
21:18 < igel> i read that the somerville library cryptoparty went quite | |||
well too | |||
21:18 < srevilak> igel: yes, it was a good gig | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> yes, igel, it went well. 18 people were there. | |||
not too many. not too few. | |||
21:21 < igel> shoot i think i am reading last week wiki | |||
21:21 < igel> aah | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_22nd,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Site Review - Looks like Democracy Center is busy all | |||
weekend in April/May | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> I emailed someone I know at Suffolk Univ. to see what | |||
their policy is. | |||
21:23 < srevilak> Community church is booked mornings of first weekend | |||
of the month. | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> The Anarchist Book Fair was at BU. Not sure how they | |||
got the rooms. Would guess a student got it for them. | |||
21:25 < plantzz> how big of a space are you looking for? | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> one room for 100-150, and 1-3 classrooms | |||
21:27 < plantzz> JP Forum hosts events at the first church on Centre | |||
street, not sure what the specs are. | |||
21:28 < plantzz> Armory in Somerville, would be able to house that, | |||
but not sure what it would cost for everything. I think the big room is | |||
pricy, but maybe worth checking out | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> I think the winter farmer’s market has started | |||
21:30 < plantzz> ahh yes...you're right | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> here is the faq - | |||
http://artsatthearmory.org/rent/rental-faqs/ | |||
21:31 < lisbon> winter farmer's market? wish we had those where I live | |||
21:31 < srevilak> jokeefe: was looking at rental-faqs. Mezannine would | |||
probably be large enough | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> it is nice lisbon. surprised there isn’t one near you, | |||
but then somerville is pretty dense | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> srevilak, the mez is used for the market | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> lighting is better at the community church | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> srevilak, can we book Community Church for now, but | |||
keep looking should we find something more to our needs? | |||
21:38 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes, we can put down deposit and book now | |||
21:39 < srevilak> can do that this weekend | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> only $50? | |||
21:39 < srevilak> $25 deposit | |||
21:39 < srevilak> wait - have we finalized which date? | |||
21:39 < srevilak> (need date to put down deposit) | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> not yet. suggestions? | |||
21:41 < srevilak> How about 4/25, last saturday in April? | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> http://www.studentcity.com/when-is-my-spring-break | |||
21:43 < jokeefe> will 4/25 will interfere with college finals? | |||
21:43 < plantzz> If you go with the April date, the winters farmers | |||
market will be over | |||
21:44 < srevilak> I think most college finals are in mid-may | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> that seems to be the case with UMB | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> 4/25 works for me, do we have a 2nd? | |||
21:45 < plantzz> BC website says May 7-12 | |||
http://www.bc.edu/offices/stserv/academic/current/exams.html#finalsspring | |||
21:45 < igel> for date alone, that works for me aye | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> three for. any others for 4/25? | |||
21:47 < lisbon> sounds good | |||
21:48 < plantzz> seems like a good date to me | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> any objections? | |||
21:50 < lisbon> none | |||
21:50 < plantzz> no | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> ok, 4/25 it is. with a tentative location of the | |||
community church of boston | |||
21:51 < srevilak> will put in reservation request with CCB and send | |||
deposit | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> The breakdown of the conference topic poll results is at | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/2014/12/06/preliminary-results-from-our-piratecon-2015-survey/ | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> net neutrality, open gov, as 1 & 2 | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> pirate strategy as 3 | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> Building third-party coalitions, Filing FOIA and public | |||
records requests, Income inequality as 4 | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> Running campaigns as 5 | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> could ask muckrock about doing a how to file FOIA and | |||
public records requests | |||
21:55 < srevilak> jokeefe: had talked two one of the muckrock fellow | |||
(evan) about this in the past | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> Could invite the Grees, Libs & SA to a Building | |||
third-party coalitions panel | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> Greens that is | |||
21:56 < srevilak> I'll volunteer to contact muckrock, re FOIA | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> Will ask open gov boston group if there is anyone who | |||
wants to be on a panel on open gov | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> suggestions for a net neutrality panel? | |||
21:59 < srevilak> lolita kelsey? | |||
21:59 < plantzz> i went to a net neutrality panel discussion early last | |||
year that had folks from freepress on it | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> could invite evan as well | |||
22:00 < srevilak> or SCATV | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> could ask ageis for suggestions | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> what about income inequality? | |||
22:02 < plantzz> Erica from SCATV is my partner, I could pick her brain | |||
for suggestions (she had freepress at her event last year). I can get | |||
back with suggestions by this weekend | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> thank you! | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> we are at time. | |||
22:03 < srevilak> one quick additional thing. | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> sure | |||
22:03 < srevilak> Feb 14th cryptoparty - we need to nail down times | |||
22:04 < srevilak> (or perhaps we've done this, but I don't know what | |||
the times are) | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> 11am-3pm | |||
22:04 < srevilak> great, settled :) | |||
22:04 < lisbon> Didnt we already decide | |||
22:04 < lisbon> yes 11-3 | |||
22:05 < srevilak> I'd looked on wiki (meeting notes), didn't see time | |||
listed there | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> ah, posted on the blog. | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> what do you want to cover? GnuPG/Tor/? | |||
22:06 < srevilak> I'd like to do a session on browser surveillance (aka, | |||
what your browser says behind your back, | |||
22:06 < srevilak> and how to make your browser shut up) | |||
22:06 < lisbon> I like both of those ideas | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> I think that would be a great idea. | |||
22:07 < srevilak> If Andrew Lewman can present, he should cover tor | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> sounds like we should record this one. lets test the | |||
wireless mic! | |||
22:09 < lisbon> And how about the projector? | |||
22:09 < jokeefe> do they have any? | |||
22:10 < srevilak> IIRC, their AV folks aren't around on Sat. We need | |||
to bring our own | |||
22:10 < lisbon> They have large displays but they have a policy that a | |||
staff member must set them up and there is no one there that day to do it | |||
22:10 < jokeefe> overhead or big monitors? | |||
22:11 < lisbon> I believe they are two large TVs | |||
22:11 < jokeefe> if they have a VGA (or HDMI, srevilak?) cables, that | |||
might be good enough | |||
22:12 < srevilak> VGA for me :) | |||
22:12 < lisbon> We cant really do that, I find their policy stupid but | |||
we must abide by it (even though im sure we all know how to plug in an | |||
HDMI cable) | |||
22:12 < srevilak> In that case, I guess question is can we bring a | |||
projector, and project on a wall | |||
22:13 < lisbon> That looks like the only option | |||
22:13 < srevilak> I can give them a call to discuss | |||
22:14 < jokeefe> if you can that would be great. just to clarify. | |||
can bring a projector if needed | |||
22:14 < lisbon> sounds good, I had already discussed this with someone | |||
there and they seemed to be pretty firm on the policy | |||
22:14 < igel> yaar | |||
22:15 < igel> ill read the mins, gtg.. | |||
22:15 < lisbon> I also need to go, any last thoughts | |||
22:15 < jokeefe> I have none | |||
22:15 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? | |||
22:16 < lisbon> I second | |||
22:16 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
22:16 < plantzz> jokeefe, i will get back to you on net neutrality | |||
folks. I also have to step out | |||
22:16 < jokeefe> thanks! | |||
22:16 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:16 < lisbon> aye, and goodnight | |||
22:17 < srevilak> will post minutes | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> thanks. think we are an end if only by attrition | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> good night all! | |||
</nowiki> |
Latest revision as of 22:20, 22 January 2015
Review
Decisions
- PirateCon 2015
- Site Review
- Program
Events Summary
- Feb. 4, Cryptoparty @ Boston Desktop Linux Users Group
- Feb. 8 (week of), Pirate Show, SCATV (Noe)
- Feb. 14, WMass Cryptoparty (lisbon), Massachusetts Green High Performance Computing Center, 100 Bigelow Street, Holyoke, MA (http://mghpcc.com/), Snow date is Feb 21st, dates tentative. duration 4 hours. Need to supply our own projector? Time is 11:00a - 3:00p
- Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
- Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
- Apr.-May, PirateCon?
- May 6, International Day against DRM
- May, Together Boston Cryptoparty?
- Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
- Jun. cryptoparty?
- Sep., Freedom Rally
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak - Arlington, MA)
- igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
- plantzz (Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville)
- lisbon (Christopher Maria - Ludlow, MA)
Observers
- davidd
- decipherstatic
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
Reviewed events: Arisia cryptoparty, four mile march (notes at 2015 Event Notes).
PirateCon 2015. Democracy center is booked up for weekends in April and May. We choose April 25th as the conference day. Community church is tentative location -- we'll put down a deposit now.
From poll, the top topics are
- Net neutrality & Open Government
- pirate strategy
- building third party coalitions & filing FOIA/public records requests
- income inequality
- running campaigns
Steve will contact Muckrock, re: participating in FOIA campaign.
Jamie will contact Boston Open Government group.
Net neutrality. Perhaps contact BNN, freepress, SCATV
Feb 14th cryptoparty is 11:00 - 3:00pm. Steve would like to do presentation on how browsers leak information (aka corporate surveillance). Perhaps Andrew Lewman on Tor. Would be nice to record the session. Micky offered to do a session on OTR.
Minutes
21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_22nd,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:00 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak - Arlington, MA 21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy lisbon 21:01 < lisbon> ahoy 21:01 < plantzz> Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville 21:01 < lisbon> Christopher Maria - Ludlow, MA 21:03 < jokeefe> anyone want to add anything? 21:03 < srevilak> nothing to add to the agenda 21:04 < jokeefe> Review 21:05 < jokeefe> Jan. 17, Arisia Crypto-panel - Went well - 35 people attended. Was able to cover GnuPG and Tor in about an hour. At least as an overview. 21:05 < srevilak> Did stallman stop in? 21:06 < jokeefe> There is interest in doing it again next year. Think we should focus on getting people to use software on tablets and smart phones since that is mostly what was available. 21:06 < lisbon> stallman was there?? 21:06 < jokeefe> yes he did. he dropped off some fliers and stickers, made a speech, then left. came back later to pick things up 21:07 < lisbon> interesting. What is the best way to do it on a mobile device? 21:07 < lisbon> I have had bed experienced in the past with tor on android tablets 21:07 < srevilak> lisbon: https://guardianproject.info/ (for android) 21:08 < lisbon> excellent, maybe this will work for me 21:09 < lisbon> *bad experiences 21:09 < jokeefe> Well, we have months to try them out, though we certainly need to cover it more 21:11 < jokeefe> Jan. 19, 4 Mile March - was very well attended. very well run 21:12 < srevilak> jokeefe: were you there with banner? anyone else? 21:12 < igel> lo' 21:12 < jokeefe> Noe and I were there. We brought the banners. 21:12 < srevilak> ahoy, igel 21:12 < igel> William Fleurant, Arlington MA 21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy igel 21:12 < lisbon> was there as many people there as their Facebook page says there was? 21:13 < srevilak> news claims ~ 1000 participated 21:13 < jokeefe> seemed like at least a 1000 people were there. 21:13 < jokeefe> more than the 100s the media said 21:14 < lisbon> great (except for the inaccurate numbers from the media) 21:17 < jokeefe> so it went well 21:17 < jokeefe> Decisions - kind of short 21:17 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 21:18 < igel> i read that the somerville library cryptoparty went quite well too 21:18 < srevilak> igel: yes, it was a good gig 21:19 < jokeefe> yes, igel, it went well. 18 people were there. not too many. not too few. 21:21 < igel> shoot i think i am reading last week wiki 21:21 < igel> aah https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_22nd,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:21 < jokeefe> Site Review - Looks like Democracy Center is busy all weekend in April/May 21:22 < jokeefe> I emailed someone I know at Suffolk Univ. to see what their policy is. 21:23 < srevilak> Community church is booked mornings of first weekend of the month. 21:23 < jokeefe> The Anarchist Book Fair was at BU. Not sure how they got the rooms. Would guess a student got it for them. 21:25 < plantzz> how big of a space are you looking for? 21:26 < jokeefe> one room for 100-150, and 1-3 classrooms 21:27 < plantzz> JP Forum hosts events at the first church on Centre street, not sure what the specs are. 21:28 < plantzz> Armory in Somerville, would be able to house that, but not sure what it would cost for everything. I think the big room is pricy, but maybe worth checking out 21:29 < jokeefe> I think the winter farmer’s market has started 21:30 < plantzz> ahh yes...you're right 21:30 < jokeefe> here is the faq - http://artsatthearmory.org/rent/rental-faqs/ 21:31 < lisbon> winter farmer's market? wish we had those where I live 21:31 < srevilak> jokeefe: was looking at rental-faqs. Mezannine would probably be large enough 21:32 < jokeefe> it is nice lisbon. surprised there isn’t one near you, but then somerville is pretty dense 21:33 < jokeefe> srevilak, the mez is used for the market 21:33 < jokeefe> lighting is better at the community church 21:38 < jokeefe> srevilak, can we book Community Church for now, but keep looking should we find something more to our needs? 21:38 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes, we can put down deposit and book now 21:39 < srevilak> can do that this weekend 21:39 < jokeefe> only $50? 21:39 < srevilak> $25 deposit 21:39 < srevilak> wait - have we finalized which date? 21:39 < srevilak> (need date to put down deposit) 21:40 < jokeefe> not yet. suggestions? 21:41 < srevilak> How about 4/25, last saturday in April? 21:41 < jokeefe> http://www.studentcity.com/when-is-my-spring-break 21:43 < jokeefe> will 4/25 will interfere with college finals? 21:43 < plantzz> If you go with the April date, the winters farmers market will be over 21:44 < srevilak> I think most college finals are in mid-may 21:44 < jokeefe> that seems to be the case with UMB 21:44 < jokeefe> 4/25 works for me, do we have a 2nd? 21:45 < plantzz> BC website says May 7-12 http://www.bc.edu/offices/stserv/academic/current/exams.html#finalsspring 21:45 < igel> for date alone, that works for me aye 21:47 < jokeefe> three for. any others for 4/25? 21:47 < lisbon> sounds good 21:48 < plantzz> seems like a good date to me 21:48 < jokeefe> any objections? 21:50 < lisbon> none 21:50 < plantzz> no 21:50 < jokeefe> ok, 4/25 it is. with a tentative location of the community church of boston 21:51 < srevilak> will put in reservation request with CCB and send deposit 21:51 < jokeefe> thank you 21:52 < jokeefe> The breakdown of the conference topic poll results is at https://masspirates.org/blog/2014/12/06/preliminary-results-from-our-piratecon-2015-survey/ 21:53 < jokeefe> net neutrality, open gov, as 1 & 2 21:53 < jokeefe> pirate strategy as 3 21:53 < jokeefe> Building third-party coalitions, Filing FOIA and public records requests, Income inequality as 4 21:54 < jokeefe> Running campaigns as 5 21:55 < jokeefe> could ask muckrock about doing a how to file FOIA and public records requests 21:55 < srevilak> jokeefe: had talked two one of the muckrock fellow (evan) about this in the past 21:56 < jokeefe> Could invite the Grees, Libs & SA to a Building third-party coalitions panel 21:56 < jokeefe> Greens that is 21:56 < srevilak> I'll volunteer to contact muckrock, re FOIA 21:56 < jokeefe> thanks 21:57 < jokeefe> Will ask open gov boston group if there is anyone who wants to be on a panel on open gov 21:58 < jokeefe> suggestions for a net neutrality panel? 21:59 < srevilak> lolita kelsey? 21:59 < plantzz> i went to a net neutrality panel discussion early last year that had folks from freepress on it 22:00 < jokeefe> could invite evan as well 22:00 < srevilak> or SCATV 22:01 < jokeefe> could ask ageis for suggestions 22:02 < jokeefe> what about income inequality? 22:02 < plantzz> Erica from SCATV is my partner, I could pick her brain for suggestions (she had freepress at her event last year). I can get back with suggestions by this weekend 22:02 < jokeefe> thank you! 22:02 < jokeefe> we are at time. 22:03 < srevilak> one quick additional thing. 22:03 < jokeefe> sure 22:03 < srevilak> Feb 14th cryptoparty - we need to nail down times 22:04 < srevilak> (or perhaps we've done this, but I don't know what the times are) 22:04 < jokeefe> 11am-3pm 22:04 < srevilak> great, settled :) 22:04 < lisbon> Didnt we already decide 22:04 < lisbon> yes 11-3 22:05 < srevilak> I'd looked on wiki (meeting notes), didn't see time listed there 22:05 < jokeefe> ah, posted on the blog. 22:05 < jokeefe> what do you want to cover? GnuPG/Tor/? 22:06 < srevilak> I'd like to do a session on browser surveillance (aka, what your browser says behind your back, 22:06 < srevilak> and how to make your browser shut up) 22:06 < lisbon> I like both of those ideas 22:07 < jokeefe> I think that would be a great idea. 22:07 < srevilak> If Andrew Lewman can present, he should cover tor 22:08 < jokeefe> sounds like we should record this one. lets test the wireless mic! 22:09 < lisbon> And how about the projector? 22:09 < jokeefe> do they have any? 22:10 < srevilak> IIRC, their AV folks aren't around on Sat. We need to bring our own 22:10 < lisbon> They have large displays but they have a policy that a staff member must set them up and there is no one there that day to do it 22:10 < jokeefe> overhead or big monitors? 22:11 < lisbon> I believe they are two large TVs 22:11 < jokeefe> if they have a VGA (or HDMI, srevilak?) cables, that might be good enough 22:12 < srevilak> VGA for me :) 22:12 < lisbon> We cant really do that, I find their policy stupid but we must abide by it (even though im sure we all know how to plug in an HDMI cable) 22:12 < srevilak> In that case, I guess question is can we bring a projector, and project on a wall 22:13 < lisbon> That looks like the only option 22:13 < srevilak> I can give them a call to discuss 22:14 < jokeefe> if you can that would be great. just to clarify. can bring a projector if needed 22:14 < lisbon> sounds good, I had already discussed this with someone there and they seemed to be pretty firm on the policy 22:14 < igel> yaar 22:15 < igel> ill read the mins, gtg.. 22:15 < lisbon> I also need to go, any last thoughts 22:15 < jokeefe> I have none 22:15 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 22:16 < lisbon> I second 22:16 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:16 < plantzz> jokeefe, i will get back to you on net neutrality folks. I also have to step out 22:16 < jokeefe> thanks! 22:16 < jokeefe> aye 22:16 < lisbon> aye, and goodnight 22:17 < srevilak> will post minutes 22:17 < jokeefe> thanks. think we are an end if only by attrition 22:17 < jokeefe> good night all!