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21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra | |||
21:01 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:02 < Kendra> Hi Kendra Moyer, in Michigan | |||
21:02 < Noe> ahoy! Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA | |||
21:02 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Anything to add to our agenda? | |||
21:04 < aquaticonions> Eli Haber, Lexington | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Upcoming Events | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> If you haven’t filled out the survey for the Nov., | |||
2016 Campaign Planning Meeting, please do | |||
21:05 < Bluestreak> Done | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Two events at the end of the month: | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> 11/21, 9am-5:30pm, Building Sustainable Security, | |||
Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> 11/21-22, 10am-6pm, Boston Anarchist Bookfair, George | |||
Sherman Student Center, Boston University | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> Who can be at either? | |||
21:07 < srevilak> Planning to attend anarchist bookfair | |||
21:07 < Bluestreak> Jason and I hope to be at the Sust Sec | |||
21:08 < Bluestreak> thingy | |||
21:08 < Bluestreak> Haven’t got tickets yet, but will get them soon | |||
21:09 < Noe> I can probably go to the anarchist bookfair on the Sunday | |||
in the afternoon | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> I will be at the Anarchist Bookfair for some of the time. | |||
If we can get enough people, then we can have a table. | |||
21:10 * srevilak willing to do table time | |||
21:11 < Bluestreak> Our event is more an opportunity to network. | |||
21:11 < Bluestreak> will have flyers. | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> good | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:12 < Noe> sounds good | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> thanks Bluestreak | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> ppl might want to catch a bite after the fair? | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> on Sat? | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> please send email to the list | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Campaigns Status | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Signature Gathering for PassMass Amendment | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Noe, srevilak, up for signature gathering on election | |||
night? | |||
21:13 < Noe> I think that makes a lot of sense! | |||
21:13 < srevilak> Sure | |||
21:14 < srevilak> If we can turn in a total of 100+ signatures, that | |||
would be great | |||
21:14 < srevilak> (we already have ~ 65) | |||
21:14 < Noe> (woohoo!) | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak, lets talk off-line see who else we | |||
can find and pick locations | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> 2016 Campaigns & Policies Update | |||
21:14 < Noe> (those were mostly gathered at freedom rally?) | |||
21:14 < srevilak> noe: yes | |||
21:15 < srevilak> Somerville's election looks like Tue Nov 3rd, yes? | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> At the nov meeting I want to plan out the next 3-6 | |||
months. mostly build local groups, finding candidates and getting them | |||
on the ballot | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> wrapped policy up in that since they are related | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> CISA - show isn’t over, but cloture vote isn’t | |||
favorable. our Senators came out against at least | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> It’s been a very long tim since we IPMed | |||
21:17 < Kendra> Market Basket is supposed to be a good spot | |||
21:17 < Noe> Yup, Somerville election is Tue Nov 3rd | |||
21:17 < Kendra> fpr signatures | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> We had better luck at Hannaford. | |||
21:18 < srevilak> Since Nov 3rd is election, would it be reasonable to | |||
gather signatures at polling places? | |||
21:18 < Bluestreak> Are we endorsing any candidates? | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> that is the idea | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> no one has asked. | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Only one I can think of is Nadeem in Cambridge, but | |||
our plate is pretty full | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Anyone is willing to lead the CISA effort? Mostly blog | |||
posts at this stage. | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> How hard is a FB post? | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> Endorsements are fine, but it is better if we can put | |||
people behind it. And deciding still takes time. | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> Dropping it | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> TPP - Anyone want to organize opposition to it. | |||
Mostly focusing on NE since MA delegation is against. | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> MAAPL form - any update srevilak? | |||
21:23 < srevilak> Have list of errata from grace to work on this week | |||
21:23 < Noe> I'm interested in leading the CISA effort, but I'm slammed | |||
with work/looking for work stuff right now | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Along with narrative generation | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Noe, lets talk about about how we could divide the | |||
work offline | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> thanks srevilak | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> going well? | |||
21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes going well. Just lots to do | |||
21:26 < srevilak> Speaking of CISA, | |||
https://www.youbetrayedus.org/facebook/ | |||
21:26 < srevilak> Must be true. Read it on the internet :) | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> :-) | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> Went to “like” your post. | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> :-) | |||
21:27 < Noe> stirring that pot fftf! | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> Well if someone wants to post something about it ... | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> You mean if someone wants to write something? | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Yes | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> Like, Hey, I know it’s pointless to fight it | |||
anymore.... | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> Because none of y’all show any interest anymore | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Fight isn’t over | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> cuz y’all are outraged fatigued... | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> IK but | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> I can’t think how to get their attention any other | |||
way than with snark | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> The most unrealistic thing about Wlking Dead is: | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> People can only run from zombies for so long | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> before resignation sets in | |||
21:30 < Noe> or we could leash the zombie and have it walk behind us? | |||
21:30 < Noe> so many possibilities! | |||
21:30 < Bluestreak> How do you mean? | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> Even if it passes, we still have to say we oppose it | |||
and will over turn it once in power | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> Of course… and is there a judicial angle to take? | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> Snark can also be good | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> Right to Privacy... | |||
21:31 < Kendra> Guy just beat his roommate to death thinking he turned | |||
into a zombie, watching too much Walking Dead. But facebook is obviously | |||
evil. I particularly like the notion of the government digging up dirt | |||
on your past relationships, it's daytime soap opera level stuff | |||
21:31 < Noe> sorry, referencing the Walking Dead and Michonne who had | |||
pet walkers | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> OMG I shouldnt laught at that! | |||
21:32 < Bluestreak> But I DID! | |||
21:32 < Noe> laughing is goooood. plus, if it makes you laugh, we can | |||
probably use it as an idea. | |||
21:32 < Noe> Kendra: brilliant. | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> :-) Moving on … H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production | |||
Subsidy / Election Bills / Other Bills for consideration - all on my | |||
plate, would appreciate help | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> Wait to Kendra’s point: | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> We just watched V for Vendetta again… | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> A hypothetical story might be a good idea | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> imagine your life under CISA | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Now … with more sex video chats on archive for Dell | |||
contractors | |||
21:34 < Kendra> Lotta tape to review | |||
21:34 < Bluestreak> The help I can best offer you at this time captain | |||
is, you toss out some ideas, write just a bit and I will supplement. | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> There are bots for that, take random screen caps to | |||
give a summary | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> What you write. Hell if I like where you are going | |||
I will take over | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> ? | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> Answer to what I just said? | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> In the beginning … | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> that enough? :-_) | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> Sigh. You just don’t get me. | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> :-) | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> :-) | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Going to skip PirateCon 2015 Videos since there is | |||
nothing to report there | |||
21:37 < Noe> Maybe we should start all posts with In the beginning | |||
. . . gotta up that wordcount somehow! | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> lol | |||
21:37 < Bluestreak> Wrtiting is hard! | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> Newsletter - any update Kendra? | |||
21:37 < Kendra> No update sorry, just moved. But maybe we can update | |||
written articles to a Fall/Winter version is that works | |||
21:38 < Kendra> And add to | |||
21:38 < Kendra> add more stories, events articles | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> sure, would be good to add stuff about the 2016 campaign | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> Tech - on the twitter api - js0000 and I have gone over | |||
the spec. He should have time in December | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> What is that pls? | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> https://masspirates.org/wiki/Twitter_API_design | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> helping manage twitter account | |||
21:42 < Noe> ooooh that looks neat | |||
21:43 < Bluestreak> TY | |||
21:43 < jokeefe> Any other tech updates srevilak? | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Not at the moment, aside from MF/PL member meeting in | |||
a couple of weeks. | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Major system upgrades planned for Dec 5th | |||
21:44 < Kendra> You going out there? | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> cool | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Kendra: yes | |||
21:45 < srevilak> Dec 5th upgrade shouldn't be too disruptive for us. | |||
Reboot is all I expect | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> good | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> We will be busy that weekend too... | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> Administrative - igel said he had someone who did | |||
stickers. following up with him | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> 11/6-7 | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> OH! | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> I can do something! | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> I can bug Will | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> Is there something specific about the stickers I | |||
need to know? | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> thanks! how much they cost. what sizes, etc. | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> ahoy itspara! | |||
21:49 < Bluestreak> What you want… on them…? | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> A get a warrant sticker for phones/computers would | |||
be nice | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> a general masspirates sticker would be nice | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> something inexpensive we can give out | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> thans | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> K | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> other suggestions? | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> Square? Round?> | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> Square/rectangular | |||
21:52 < Noe> whatever is the cheapest shape? | |||
21:52 < Noe> black and white and orange? | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> sounds good | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> k | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> Forgot this: BRIC is asking for extra $2.25m from the | |||
Mass. budget. Oppose? | |||
21:53 < srevilak> Oppose | |||
21:53 < Kendra> thumbs down | |||
21:53 < Noe> Oppose. | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> other opinions? | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> Emailed Will done | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> ask for the money to go to body cams | |||
21:55 < Kendra> I am wondering what they need it for and who it supposed | |||
to pay for it. | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> more useless surveillance that we pay for | |||
21:55 < Noe> can we move that money to the T? the T could use it. | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> not hearing anyone for it, so we oppose it | |||
21:56 < Bluestreak> “Spilka is sympathetic - but it means that any calls | |||
on the extra $2.25m for BRIC should now be routed only to those two. “ | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> “MA House and Senate are in a little bit of a panic | |||
to get a supplemental budget passed by Halloween” | |||
21:56 < Bluestreak> Spilka is my S senator | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> I’ll call her | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> Leverage! Anyone want to write the blog post? | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> and say.... | |||
21:57 < Kendra> Aye, oppose | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> we oppose the increase unless it goes to body cams? | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> or we plain oppose? | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> plain oppose | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> and am I calling as citizen? | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> Need a body cams bill | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> or rep of MPP? | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> both | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> the key thing is to get others to call as well | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> OK grounds: Can’t afford it? | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> I can count on one neighbor maybe | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> how about: cannot afford wasting money | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> we have enough police already | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> crime is down | |||
21:59 < srevilak> we have more important things to spend money on | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> terroism is down | |||
21:59 < srevilak> Like road repair, education | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> education? | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> beat me to it | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> MBTA | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> yes! | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> so you are writing this, Bluestreak? | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> Calling | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> said I woudl call | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> will write a little something | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> :-P | |||
22:00 < srevilak> thx Bluestreak | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> I slept all day yeaterday you know | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> little is good. you have good source material from | |||
our friend. thanks! | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> zzzzz | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> sounds lovely | |||
22:01 < srevilak> speaking of sleep, we're at time | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> grass is always greener | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> Re: Helping with BINJ CCTV camera mapping project - | |||
no update | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> we are | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> did you map that cam in the alley? | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> 2nd | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> nope | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> put a pic up | |||
22:01 < srevilak> aye, motion to adjounr | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> 2nd? | |||
22:01 < srevilak> aye, motion to adjourn | |||
22:01 < Kendra> aye | |||
22:01 < Kendra> nite all | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> aye | |||
22:01 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
22:01 < Noe> aye | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> sleep well ty steve | |||
22:02 < Noe> nite! | |||
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Latest revision as of 23:55, 1 February 2018
Reviews
Decisions
Upcoming Events
- 10/28, 6-9pm, Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts?, 577 Somerville Ave, Somerville
- Nov., 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting
- 11/21, 9am-5:30pm, Building Sustainable Security, Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall
- 11/21-22, 10am-6pm, Boston Anarchist Bookfair, George Sherman Student Center, Boston University
Campaigns Status
Signature Gathering for PassMass Amendment
Last day is 11/18, but they want them in hand earlier than that. Suggest an election day signature gathering.
2016 Campaigns & Policies Update (jokeefe)
- Setting up a planning meeting in early November.
- Write up doc on using git & commenting on & voting on changes.
CISA
- Blog Updates (jokeefe) - Multiple posted along with email. Warren and Markey both came out against it, but cloture vote was 83-14. Bill will need to be reconciled. Multiple MA house members voted for it, so we can urge people to contact those Reps.
TPP
Entire Mass. delegation is against it. Still need a post asking people to contact the others in New England who voted for it.
MAAPL form (srevilak)
H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy
Been busy with CISA. Will get back to this (jokeefe)
Election Bills
Will update the statement we did last time and post/email it (jokeefe)
Other Bills for consideration
Haven't received feedback. Could do a poll. (jokeefe)
PirateCon 2015 Videos (jokeefe)
Ordered them in ease of processing / priority:
- Building 3rd party coalitions
- Lightning talks
- Keynote: How we won Net Neutrality
- Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and you
- Rethinking the City
- Income Inequality
Newsletter (Kendra)
- Design & Feedback
- Distribution Planning (besides emailing a pdf)
- Gather list of people to mail it to (?)
- Gather a list of places to distribute it (?)
- Decide on the print run (?)
- Distribute
Tech
- Bitcoin + Credit card gateway in CiviCRM (srevilak, js0000, Kendra)
- Improve UI navigation of wiki & expose more wiki bits on blog (Noe, jokeefe)
- Allow distributed organizing on CiviCRM (and pointers to get started) (Kendra, srevilak, Chris, jokeefe)
- js0000 and jokeefe will work on building a tool to manage twitter:
design(jokeefe) - posted at Twitter API design- coding (js0000 & jokeefe)
- Forum (or needed now that lists are publicized?)
Administrative
- Email blast - Latest announcements
- Media
- Updated media list (noe)
- Nov. - 2016 Elections
- Blog posts
- Local/regional contacts (jokeefe) - Regional page up. Working on local pages.
- Materials
- Stickers (igel)
- Flyers
- Need update to general flyer
- ideas: UK Pirate Party materials / design ideas
- Need update to general flyer
Tasks: Wiki list, PiratePad version.
Helping with BINJ CCTV camera mapping project
Looking for someone to work on this.
Upcoming Events
- 10/28, 6-9pm, Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts?, 577 Somerville Ave, Somerville
- Nov., 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting
- 11/21, 9am-5:30pm, Building Sustainable Security, Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall
- 11/21-22, 10am-6pm, Boston Anarchist Bookfair, George Sherman Student Center, Boston University
- 11/25, 6-9pm, Cryptoparty, Somerville
- Dec., 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting
- Dec. IT Meeting?
- 12/30, 6-9pm, Cryptoparty, Somerville ?
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- Noe (Noelani Kamelmela, Somerville, MA)
- Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- aquaticonions (Eli Haber, Lexington)
- Kendra (Kendra Moyer, in Michigan)
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
Minutes
21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra 21:01 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:02 < Kendra> Hi Kendra Moyer, in Michigan 21:02 < Noe> ahoy! Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA 21:02 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:04 < jokeefe> Anything to add to our agenda? 21:04 < aquaticonions> Eli Haber, Lexington 21:05 < jokeefe> Upcoming Events 21:05 < jokeefe> If you haven’t filled out the survey for the Nov., 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting, please do 21:05 < Bluestreak> Done 21:06 < jokeefe> Two events at the end of the month: 21:06 < jokeefe> 11/21, 9am-5:30pm, Building Sustainable Security, Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall 21:06 < jokeefe> 11/21-22, 10am-6pm, Boston Anarchist Bookfair, George Sherman Student Center, Boston University 21:07 < jokeefe> Who can be at either? 21:07 < srevilak> Planning to attend anarchist bookfair 21:07 < Bluestreak> Jason and I hope to be at the Sust Sec 21:08 < Bluestreak> thingy 21:08 < Bluestreak> Haven’t got tickets yet, but will get them soon 21:09 < Noe> I can probably go to the anarchist bookfair on the Sunday in the afternoon 21:09 < jokeefe> I will be at the Anarchist Bookfair for some of the time. If we can get enough people, then we can have a table. 21:10 * srevilak willing to do table time 21:11 < Bluestreak> Our event is more an opportunity to network. 21:11 < Bluestreak> will have flyers. 21:12 < jokeefe> good 21:12 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak 21:12 < Noe> sounds good 21:12 < jokeefe> thanks Bluestreak 21:12 < Bluestreak> ppl might want to catch a bite after the fair? 21:12 < Bluestreak> on Sat? 21:12 < jokeefe> please send email to the list 21:13 < jokeefe> Campaigns Status 21:13 < jokeefe> Signature Gathering for PassMass Amendment 21:13 < jokeefe> Noe, srevilak, up for signature gathering on election night? 21:13 < Noe> I think that makes a lot of sense! 21:13 < srevilak> Sure 21:14 < srevilak> If we can turn in a total of 100+ signatures, that would be great 21:14 < srevilak> (we already have ~ 65) 21:14 < Noe> (woohoo!) 21:14 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak, lets talk off-line see who else we can find and pick locations 21:14 < jokeefe> 2016 Campaigns & Policies Update 21:14 < Noe> (those were mostly gathered at freedom rally?) 21:14 < srevilak> noe: yes 21:15 < srevilak> Somerville's election looks like Tue Nov 3rd, yes? 21:15 < jokeefe> At the nov meeting I want to plan out the next 3-6 months. mostly build local groups, finding candidates and getting them on the ballot 21:16 < jokeefe> wrapped policy up in that since they are related 21:16 < jokeefe> CISA - show isn’t over, but cloture vote isn’t favorable. our Senators came out against at least 21:17 < Bluestreak> It’s been a very long tim since we IPMed 21:17 < Kendra> Market Basket is supposed to be a good spot 21:17 < Noe> Yup, Somerville election is Tue Nov 3rd 21:17 < Kendra> fpr signatures 21:17 < Bluestreak> We had better luck at Hannaford. 21:18 < srevilak> Since Nov 3rd is election, would it be reasonable to gather signatures at polling places? 21:18 < Bluestreak> Are we endorsing any candidates? 21:18 < jokeefe> that is the idea 21:18 < jokeefe> no one has asked. 21:19 < jokeefe> Only one I can think of is Nadeem in Cambridge, but our plate is pretty full 21:19 < jokeefe> Anyone is willing to lead the CISA effort? Mostly blog posts at this stage. 21:19 < Bluestreak> How hard is a FB post? 21:20 < jokeefe> Endorsements are fine, but it is better if we can put people behind it. And deciding still takes time. 21:21 < Bluestreak> Dropping it 21:22 < jokeefe> TPP - Anyone want to organize opposition to it. Mostly focusing on NE since MA delegation is against. 21:23 < jokeefe> MAAPL form - any update srevilak? 21:23 < srevilak> Have list of errata from grace to work on this week 21:23 < Noe> I'm interested in leading the CISA effort, but I'm slammed with work/looking for work stuff right now 21:24 < srevilak> Along with narrative generation 21:25 < jokeefe> Noe, lets talk about about how we could divide the work offline 21:25 < jokeefe> thanks srevilak 21:25 < jokeefe> going well? 21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes going well. Just lots to do 21:26 < srevilak> Speaking of CISA, https://www.youbetrayedus.org/facebook/ 21:26 < srevilak> Must be true. Read it on the internet :) 21:27 < jokeefe> :-) 21:27 < Bluestreak> Went to “like” your post. 21:27 < Bluestreak> :-) 21:27 < Noe> stirring that pot fftf! 21:27 < jokeefe> Well if someone wants to post something about it ... 21:28 < Bluestreak> You mean if someone wants to write something? 21:28 < jokeefe> Yes 21:28 < Bluestreak> Like, Hey, I know it’s pointless to fight it anymore.... 21:28 < Bluestreak> Because none of y’all show any interest anymore 21:28 < jokeefe> Fight isn’t over 21:28 < Bluestreak> cuz y’all are outraged fatigued... 21:29 < Bluestreak> IK but 21:29 < Bluestreak> I can’t think how to get their attention any other way than with snark 21:29 < Bluestreak> The most unrealistic thing about Wlking Dead is: 21:29 < Bluestreak> People can only run from zombies for so long 21:29 < Bluestreak> before resignation sets in 21:30 < Noe> or we could leash the zombie and have it walk behind us? 21:30 < Noe> so many possibilities! 21:30 < Bluestreak> How do you mean? 21:30 < jokeefe> Even if it passes, we still have to say we oppose it and will over turn it once in power 21:31 < Bluestreak> Of course… and is there a judicial angle to take? 21:31 < jokeefe> Snark can also be good 21:31 < Bluestreak> Right to Privacy... 21:31 < Kendra> Guy just beat his roommate to death thinking he turned into a zombie, watching too much Walking Dead. But facebook is obviously evil. I particularly like the notion of the government digging up dirt on your past relationships, it's daytime soap opera level stuff 21:31 < Noe> sorry, referencing the Walking Dead and Michonne who had pet walkers 21:31 < Bluestreak> OMG I shouldnt laught at that! 21:32 < Bluestreak> But I DID! 21:32 < Noe> laughing is goooood. plus, if it makes you laugh, we can probably use it as an idea. 21:32 < Noe> Kendra: brilliant. 21:32 < jokeefe> :-) Moving on … H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy / Election Bills / Other Bills for consideration - all on my plate, would appreciate help 21:33 < Bluestreak> Wait to Kendra’s point: 21:33 < Bluestreak> We just watched V for Vendetta again… 21:33 < Bluestreak> A hypothetical story might be a good idea 21:33 < Bluestreak> imagine your life under CISA 21:34 < jokeefe> Now … with more sex video chats on archive for Dell contractors 21:34 < Kendra> Lotta tape to review 21:34 < Bluestreak> The help I can best offer you at this time captain is, you toss out some ideas, write just a bit and I will supplement. 21:35 < jokeefe> There are bots for that, take random screen caps to give a summary 21:35 < Bluestreak> What you write. Hell if I like where you are going I will take over 21:35 < Bluestreak> ? 21:35 < Bluestreak> Answer to what I just said? 21:35 < jokeefe> In the beginning … 21:36 < jokeefe> that enough? :-_) 21:36 < Bluestreak> Sigh. You just don’t get me. 21:36 < jokeefe> :-) 21:36 < Bluestreak> :-) 21:36 < jokeefe> Going to skip PirateCon 2015 Videos since there is nothing to report there 21:37 < Noe> Maybe we should start all posts with In the beginning . . . gotta up that wordcount somehow! 21:37 < jokeefe> lol 21:37 < Bluestreak> Wrtiting is hard! 21:37 < jokeefe> Newsletter - any update Kendra? 21:37 < Kendra> No update sorry, just moved. But maybe we can update written articles to a Fall/Winter version is that works 21:38 < Kendra> And add to 21:38 < Kendra> add more stories, events articles 21:38 < jokeefe> sure, would be good to add stuff about the 2016 campaign 21:39 < jokeefe> Tech - on the twitter api - js0000 and I have gone over the spec. He should have time in December 21:40 < Bluestreak> What is that pls? 21:41 < jokeefe> https://masspirates.org/wiki/Twitter_API_design 21:41 < jokeefe> helping manage twitter account 21:42 < Noe> ooooh that looks neat 21:43 < Bluestreak> TY 21:43 < jokeefe> Any other tech updates srevilak? 21:44 < srevilak> Not at the moment, aside from MF/PL member meeting in a couple of weeks. 21:44 < srevilak> Major system upgrades planned for Dec 5th 21:44 < Kendra> You going out there? 21:44 < jokeefe> cool 21:44 < srevilak> Kendra: yes 21:45 < srevilak> Dec 5th upgrade shouldn't be too disruptive for us. Reboot is all I expect 21:46 < jokeefe> good 21:46 < Bluestreak> We will be busy that weekend too... 21:46 < jokeefe> Administrative - igel said he had someone who did stickers. following up with him 21:46 < Bluestreak> 11/6-7 21:46 < Bluestreak> OH! 21:46 < Bluestreak> I can do something! 21:46 < Bluestreak> I can bug Will 21:47 < Bluestreak> Is there something specific about the stickers I need to know? 21:48 < jokeefe> thanks! how much they cost. what sizes, etc. 21:48 < jokeefe> ahoy itspara! 21:49 < Bluestreak> What you want… on them…? 21:49 < jokeefe> A get a warrant sticker for phones/computers would be nice 21:49 < jokeefe> a general masspirates sticker would be nice 21:49 < jokeefe> something inexpensive we can give out 21:50 < jokeefe> thans 21:50 < jokeefe> thanks 21:50 < Bluestreak> K 21:50 < jokeefe> other suggestions? 21:50 < Bluestreak> Square? Round?> 21:52 < jokeefe> Square/rectangular 21:52 < Noe> whatever is the cheapest shape? 21:52 < Noe> black and white and orange? 21:52 < jokeefe> sounds good 21:53 < Bluestreak> k 21:53 < jokeefe> Forgot this: BRIC is asking for extra $2.25m from the Mass. budget. Oppose? 21:53 < srevilak> Oppose 21:53 < Kendra> thumbs down 21:53 < Noe> Oppose. 21:54 < jokeefe> other opinions? 21:54 < Bluestreak> Emailed Will done 21:54 < jokeefe> thanks 21:55 < Bluestreak> ask for the money to go to body cams 21:55 < Kendra> I am wondering what they need it for and who it supposed to pay for it. 21:55 < jokeefe> more useless surveillance that we pay for 21:55 < Noe> can we move that money to the T? the T could use it. 21:56 < jokeefe> not hearing anyone for it, so we oppose it 21:56 < Bluestreak> “Spilka is sympathetic - but it means that any calls on the extra $2.25m for BRIC should now be routed only to those two. “ 21:56 < jokeefe> “MA House and Senate are in a little bit of a panic to get a supplemental budget passed by Halloween” 21:56 < Bluestreak> Spilka is my S senator 21:57 < Bluestreak> I’ll call her 21:57 < jokeefe> Leverage! Anyone want to write the blog post? 21:57 < Bluestreak> and say.... 21:57 < Kendra> Aye, oppose 21:57 < Bluestreak> we oppose the increase unless it goes to body cams? 21:57 < Bluestreak> or we plain oppose? 21:57 < jokeefe> plain oppose 21:58 < Bluestreak> and am I calling as citizen? 21:58 < jokeefe> Need a body cams bill 21:58 < Bluestreak> or rep of MPP? 21:58 < jokeefe> both 21:58 < jokeefe> the key thing is to get others to call as well 21:58 < Bluestreak> OK grounds: Can’t afford it? 21:59 < Bluestreak> I can count on one neighbor maybe 21:59 < jokeefe> how about: cannot afford wasting money 21:59 < Bluestreak> we have enough police already 21:59 < Bluestreak> crime is down 21:59 < srevilak> we have more important things to spend money on 21:59 < Bluestreak> terroism is down 21:59 < srevilak> Like road repair, education 21:59 < Bluestreak> education? 21:59 < Bluestreak> beat me to it 21:59 < jokeefe> MBTA 21:59 < Bluestreak> yes! 22:00 < jokeefe> so you are writing this, Bluestreak? 22:00 < Bluestreak> Calling 22:00 < Bluestreak> said I woudl call 22:00 < Bluestreak> will write a little something 22:00 < Bluestreak> :-P 22:00 < srevilak> thx Bluestreak 22:00 < Bluestreak> I slept all day yeaterday you know 22:00 < jokeefe> little is good. you have good source material from our friend. thanks! 22:00 < Bluestreak> zzzzz 22:01 < jokeefe> sounds lovely 22:01 < srevilak> speaking of sleep, we're at time 22:01 < Bluestreak> grass is always greener 22:01 < jokeefe> Re: Helping with BINJ CCTV camera mapping project - no update 22:01 < jokeefe> we are 22:01 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 22:01 < Bluestreak> did you map that cam in the alley? 22:01 < Bluestreak> 2nd 22:01 < jokeefe> nope 22:01 < jokeefe> put a pic up 22:01 < srevilak> aye, motion to adjounr 22:01 < jokeefe> 2nd? 22:01 < srevilak> aye, motion to adjourn 22:01 < Kendra> aye 22:01 < Kendra> nite all 22:01 < jokeefe> aye 22:01 < Bluestreak> aye 22:01 < srevilak> will post transcript 22:01 < Noe> aye 22:02 < Bluestreak> sleep well ty steve 22:02 < Noe> nite!